Namaya, when I call her name, my voice becomes gentle, the muscles of the face gently relax and smiles. It is not a strong pronunciation because it is not a strong sound or an altitude, but it is not sweet or youthful because there are many Lee Eung or Lee. Nevertheless, when you call, your mind becomes comfortable, relaxed and drowsy. Her round and bustling face comes to mind, shy, tender, but as a tender voice of April. My real name is Hongnamhwa. Namhwa, Namhwa, and became Namma. Nama lives in Goesan. Together with elementary school students and teenagers, they work with arts, designed various designs from the county office, designed agricultural producers, and makes their grandmothers the story of life. In the garden, I eat salads with vegetables, go out to walk the dog with a windy field, and take a nap with cats in a sunny courtyard. If you cross one bridge, you know that the person you know is the network of the town. When you go out to town, you will meet someone you know once at a twenty step. Often, I travel to Macau and Vietnam and work together with Himalayan tracking. Everyone dreams of living in a rural life and living as a freelancer and maintaining dignity. Goesan, however, was born in Seoul, grown up, graduated from Seoul, and first worked in Seoul. Born in 1990, thirty -year, Nama is sometimes busy and sometimes lazy, sometimes lazy in Goesan, Chungcheongbuk -do.
What did you do after graduating from college?
I went to a company that made a video by leaving the Video Design Division of the Namage Gyewon University of Arts. I learned about shooting, editing, and dealing with CG, but I studied around 2D. It’s easy to think about making effects, subtitles, and animations used for broadcasting, and it’s easy to think of moving flat images. After graduating, I went to a video company (laughs). It was an intern in the last semester, and I got a job at the company.
What kind of video was it?
It was a company that usually made a concert video. When the singers performed, the video on the background, so when the singer sang, made a video that suits the stage that makes the images that match the song. Park Jung -hyun, Kim Bum -soo, Sung Si -kyung, Seo In -guk, VIXX and BTS were also.
Oh somewhere, BTS. Was it when it wasn’t famous then?
It’s just a long time after your debut. I did all the singers who were active at that time. Because I was in charge of a concert with several people, so I tried all the famous singers at that time.
What did you do in the process? It would be fun to hear it at first glance.
I made a design source in the office, not the former concert site. Make the images, move it and add the effect. In fact, it’s fun to open in the field, so if you sit in the office and edit it, you just work with the factory. After a while, I thought it didn’t fit with me.
I remember it was hard because there was a lot of work somewhere.
That’s right. When I had a lot of work, I had to work on the weekends almost every day. It was hard to work for a year and a half. My heart is so stuffy and I can’t breathe when I work and go home. I learned from my body that I’m getting stressed. I have a gloomy feeling that I didn’t usually see. I learned that depression does not come with my heart, but through my body.
So what did you do so?
I thought I should take a break.
It’s a good rest somewhere. (laugh)
I’m right. You have to rest a lot. I have no stamina and I’m tired. I came down to Goesan.
Where did Namane live in Goesan?
Originally, the house was Seoul, but my father was a long dream, and when I became a college student, I returned home. I sold Seoul’s house and my family went to Goesan. By the time I entered a low -cost college, I lived in my grandmother’s house in Bundang. When I was in work, I attended my grandmother’s house. So I went to where my family was. I didn’t have to go to the countryside and take a break, but I had to rest.
Do you have to rest somewhere in your family, do you love your family a lot?
That’s right.
It’s not easy to love my family somewhere. (laugh)
So. I wanted to see my family once a week. It was the biggest when I was in work. I want to see my mother’s face once a week, but I didn’t have time to see it once a week. Yes … I don’t know my dad’s face (laughs), I missed my mom.
Why do you feel when you get a resignation because you want to see your mother’s face once a week? This is not yet the world, but I’m still less hungry, but at least I can’t say this. This is because the retirement of my first job was because I didn’t want to take the subway. After graduating from college, I got a job at an advertising agency. Until early 1990, many advertising agencies were in Chungmuro. From the house in Suyuri to Chungmuro, it was enough to reach Line 4, but at the time, the subway was literally “hell”. If there was a landscape of hell, I thought it was like this. The subway that carried people through the Sanggye Nowon Gate was already a footsteps by me. Pushmen were preparing with their palms and pushed people inside. The scream came out, but after being pushed, it was surrounded by people everywhere, and it was pushed out by the people who got off when they became the next stop. In particular, when I became Dongdaemun or Dongdaemun playground, my feet were swept away in the air because the huge waves pushed me. When I was swept away by a human tsunami, I didn’t breathe, so I had to sit on the floor for a few seconds and take a deep breath. One month or three months, one day, I came home, and I heard a silent sound in the complex subway. Why are you touching, when did I touch you, not touching you now? I don’t think I was born to do this. I resigned the next day. Of course, there were more reasons, but the biggest reason was the subway. I heard from a friend who lives in Hawaii, and the Hawaiians went to get to work in the United States and quit in a few years. It would have been easy for people who started to wear ‘쪼’ from the beginning of their steps, lived with their feet in the shoes. I think I know that heart after wearing a comfortable ‘쪼’. However, even if the subway is cut, the tail is lowered before the reason for leaving the company. This is the most beautiful reason for leaving the world.
Oh, then I went down to Goesan and lived so far. I know that life 2 acts have been unfolded in Goesan, who went down to rest. What did you start to do in Goesan for the first time?
There are teachers who have cultural arts education in Goesan. For elementary and middle school children. In fact, I didn’t want to get there. I don’t want to act as a teacher. (Laughter) I thought it was a job that didn’t really fit. I went down to Goesan and made money in Seoul for the first year, rested in Goesan, and lived a little like this. Every weekend, I went to the Flea Market in front of Itaewon and Hongdae to draw a portrait. I made money like that, I went to Goesan for a weekend, relaxed, and played again for a year. The people I knew in Seoul sent me a little design and video editing. Sometimes I love you. (Laughter) I lived happily by going to Seoul, but I couldn’t live like that. I had to pay back student loans. Then, there was a suggestion that I would do a teacher after school. Related to art. Goesan is narrow, so do you have anyone to work around? If someone asks, I have a person like this. It’s like that. So I contacted me. After school art, I don’t think it’s a big deal, but I started with great courage. Because it’s too hard to say in front of others. The voice is small, and I’m still telling you to tell you more. (Laughter) Anyway, if you speak with this voice in front of elementary school students, I was worried that I would listen to me. I went back to making classes and drawing classes every other week, but the children liked me. (Laughter) I got great confidence there. Oh, the kids like me and listen to me. It was so important for me.
How many grades are you in charge of?
From the first grade to the 6th grade.
The spectrum somewhere is wide. So if they gather after school, I’ll make this today, make it together, and draw together today.
You’re right. The first and second grade kids are just running and hugging. Oh, the lovely babies, and I went to the class with a bit of a slightly rough and affectionate love of the high school children. At first, I couldn’t accept the energy of the children, so I fell when I came home. It’s four hours, but I remember that I was stunned for four hours and slept until the next day. Then I also had a cartoon class for middle school students. I started to be a teacher after school. Children are looking like this. It was so amazing.
It’s amazing that Nama is working with children, but it’s not surprising that children like her. Nama was such a person. Nama worked together in his early teens in his late teens. He also participated in the ‘Koh Jung -hee Youth Literary Award 100 Days’ event. The role of Nama was video shooting and editing. I was in charge of the camera, saying that I couldn’t really speak in front of others. Perhaps it was no exaggeration to hide behind the camera, but at the time of the two nights and three days in Haenam Mihwangsa, the popularity of Nama stabbed the sky. Even though they didn’t open their mouths all day, they only carried the camera and shooted, the girls used to say that they were so cool. The girls who are leaning more towards listening to the words they are hesitating to hesitate to listen to the words they are hesitating, suddenly come to mind.
I felt like I had a wall. I took a teenager class for courage, and it was a class that made a radio drama with middle and high school students. It was a class that adapted Romeo and Juliet to make it a radio drama. That’s a bigger wall. (Laughter) There is a team that teaches youth cultural education called Culture School Forest, and we plan and conduct cultural arts programs for youth. For example, in the middle school Korean language, you can make a picture book, make a video of a Saturday culture school to make a video or make a radio drama. It is a group that continues to provide various cultural and arts education in Goesan. I work mainly with that team.
Wasn’t there any suggestion to come in there?
I was there, but I’m not confident to go to work. (Laughter) I’m just working together in a very close relationship.
Was the radio drama somewhere in the cultural school forest?
No. It was a program that was conducted in the House of Culture. At first, I was scared. I remember something scary because I was a teenager. If you don’t answer, I did it, but I liked me because I went to me. I can form a consensus with these friends, but I felt it because I felt it. It was the first time in this class, but it was fun, but there were a lot of trial and error.
What trial and error was there?
I was a little obsessed with the output, so my teacher’s hand was too much. For children, the process of education is important for children, even if there is no wonderful result, I realized something more important in it and that it is more important. So I understand that the educational activities say that there is no need for a nice work. It was very important for me to break the prejudice and fear of my youth in the process. I can’t do this, I’m scared of this, I think these things are broken and it’s very good. I needed an opportunity, but I naturally feel that I have overcome my limitations through this opportunity.
As an extension of making radio dramas, they make movies with teenagers and cartoon classes. I also play with elementary school children. While playing traditional games, they can make theaters based on it and connect them to making fairy tales. In addition to the video, he is a person who works across various areas such as design writing picture cartoon game. It was also in writing class that I first met Nama. He was a storyteller who knows how to be quiet and calm. In the early twenties, he made a magazine called “Ji 誌” once a month with his peer groups. The techniques of life that Nama trained and accumulated seem to be the power to live in Goesan. In fact, it was amazing when I first heard about teaching children and working with teenagers. Perhaps it would never have been if I lived in Seoul. I do not want to do what I do not want to do, and I do it one by one in Goesan. The children liked me, but to Nama, there must have been a corner for the children. What kind of children like young and unleashed teachers who are not coercive and hierarchy, listen carefully to their children and listen to small voices. Perhaps it was, the teacher who laid down to reach a conclusion, rather than speaking, was probably more likely. It would be because I came home and had to fall down. The story of the children who came into the heart of Namma and spread their wings, and the sanctuary, was probably strong at first.
I want to keep my relationship with my children and meet. I want to support them and be helpful.
I was glad to hear that I was living well in Goesan and lived well in Goesan, but on the other hand, I often thought that I would like to do my work. I think it was a pity to use the artistic talent of Nama only to teach children, but I really like the paintings drawn by Namma. It was very good to work this time.
Namma Lim Kak -jeong is a project that is supported by the Cultural Heritage Administration in the Culture and Arts Forest. In Goesan, there is the birthplace of Hong Myung -hee, the author of Lim Kuk -jung. If you perform Lim Kuk -jeong, I was in charge of drawing when the artist adapted it like a fairy tale. I perform on the third Saturday of every month. When the day gets darker, Hong Myung -hee’s birthplace is on a big screen and plays the video. The voice actors read the story like a storytelling, and there’s a picture of me. I’ve been about four times so far, but I don’t know when it will end. Draw about twenty sinks.
If you somewhere 20 pieces, it’s not normal. After all, you can make a fairy tale book later.
Yes, to do that, you have to draw better, but anyway, the pictures are modified and collected well.
If the day is warm, I have to go to Hong Myung -hee. Lim Kuk -jung to see. I heard that there are other things other than this.
I also produce a local event poster and a program. Children’s Day events, local marketplaces, farmer markets, etc. Sometimes there’s a job at the county office, so when I go in, I have something I worked on. And it’s a small branding and designing a farm logo. Make a collection of materials in the military, the last result of the children’s work and the picture book. The most common thing is to make a picture book. So far, I have only been producing my grandmother’s life in a picture book, but since this year, I’m thinking about it from the story stage.
Can you do all of those things somewhere? Namhwa: You can do it. I’m doing it somehow.
Nama is in practice. While doing all the things, he has a fingertips, expanding his heart, and building a story. I do not distinguish between important things and what is a bit of work, but to do not distinguish between valuable and lowly work, but not to share my work and my work. It is not a lingering between what you want to do and what you need to do and what you do well and not. Training is that. Do not be uneven, do not judge, do not doubt and ask questions. Like a lion who is not surprised by the sound, like a wind that is not caught in a net, he goes alone like a horn of an indispensable horn. At the end, the eyes will deepen, the hands will be free, and the heart will be empty. Work is what you do.
Will you earn a lot of money somewhere?
I don’t earn a lot, but I think I earn more than when I was in a company in Seoul.
In Seoul, there is a lot of work in Goesan, while we are doing one thing. What is the difference between this work and what’s better?
Um … If you look at the efficiency of work, one thing is fast and you can do more. But it’s too hard for me. It’s frustrating. On the other hand, work in Goesan can do what I do well, and above all, I feel that I need what I need. I feel like I’m doing something harder because I feel my useful. And most of them are to meet people in person. If you have only worked on the computer and work, you will meet someone here, talk together, discuss together, and make it. So I feel like I’m working while getting energy.
For example, even if we do that, we want to do this with this purpose and do some values. If you have technically edited idols or singers who have never met in Seoul, you are doing what I know here. If you listen to people’s stories, you will just want to make it well.
Yes. Because they are often seen. It’s all neighbor.
It’s a neighbor, so it’s good.
It’s a neighbor. Because they all meet often. I meet you when you look around.
How much is Goesan’s population?
I think it’s about 35,000.
Somewhere 500 people know?
I think so. (Laughter) I think the children know half.
Not long ago, when I started a new meeting, there was a place to give a new name for his position. What do you call the head of the school, what will the young people learn from this academy? As such, all kinds of branches come out, and it is important to us. Wujung, the person who is important to us, I liked the name of that position. A person who is important to us. If you take on that position, your shoulders shrugged, pride your nose, and you could make anything exciting. As I listened to the story, Namaya seems to have been the middle of Goesan. At the county office, the farm needs all at school. Is it Upil? The person we need, anyway, seems to have become a fuse of Goesan.
What is it like a day?
Um … It’s different every day, but on a day without class, I stay at home all day. When I want to work, I work with dogs and cats and spend a day. There are eight dogs and cats, and the dogs live in the yard and the cats go back and forth.
When I first went to Goesan, I sometimes wanted to come to Seoul and play, and I thought I should go to Seoul and work. . I think it’s all Goesan.
You’re right. In fact, I had no longing for the countryside, and I never dreamed of rural life. Rather, the city was more familiar and comfortable. There are many fun things. It was my useful thing when I came to Goesan. I was so useful, so I felt confident.
It’s a fun story somewhere.
I think I’ve got a lot of energy, and I’m not as full as I think. Rather, it’s a bit helpless, but if you are in a gap in Goesan, I think that way. Oh, I am a useless person, and above all, I feel like I belong to Goesan, and I feel like I became a resident of Goesan. I have my job and my house here.
Somewhere that’s Goesan. (laugh)
Everyone in the neighborhood knows.
You have to be careful about the beggars somewhere. (laugh)
So. (Laughter) You have to be careful, and you can’t do it.
Somewhere in my life is the ideal form of life that everyone dreams of. Most of the city people want to go to the countryside. I want to hit this busy life, I will resign tomorrow, so I live in my mouth. Every day, I commute to work, work overtime, drink late at night, drink, and go to work before drinking the next day, and people talk about it. I want to go to the countryside and live in a house with a yard and make a little garden to make what I want to meet my time. But you are living such a life now. Are you living your life now?
Um … yes yes. Especially for people like me, I think it’s right to live like this. I’m a happy person if I don’t need much and have a small space where I can enjoy my hobbies. I also like that there is little irritation than the city. Because of the low irritation, my eyes and ears are comfortable and I feel stable. I feel that the quality of life has increased in my standards rather than living in the city.
The quality of life somewhere.
Yes. Oh, there are a lot of moments that this is happiness.
So did a friend in Hawaii. I couldn’t give up the quality of life, so I decided to settle in Hawaii. After 8 hours of work, he went to work and went to work for more than eight hours. So if you want to work overtime, you must report. I have to work overtime because of this. Rather than being a dimension of human rights, the cost of overtime pay is so high, but anyway, the life of dinner is guaranteed. He sent a short video called Hawaii’s news, and a bird escaped from the zoo and ran to catch a bird with four male staff. In the end, the quality of life that Hawaiian friend said was less irritating and tired.
There are some yards, dogs and cats. I eat it with the garden lettuce. Kimjang is also the case. So you plan to live in Goesan as long as you have nothing special in the future?
I haven’t planned in the future yet, and I have a good condition now.
The advantage of living in Goesan is that it is an environment that suits the personality of a person named Nama. So is there any inconvenience living in Goesan? It’s a small town.
There are few young people. Goesan young people leave the city when they graduate from high school. For studying or for a job. As a result, there is no space for young people. It’s a movie theater. Nowadays, you don’t have to go because you have Netflix at home, but there is no place for young people to play with museums or shopping malls. There is a small bookstore in the forest, but I have to go in too much. There’s no fun except a bar, it’s a bit uncomfortable.
Somewhere, in Seoul, I often watched the exhibition or watched a movie together. I drove a while ago and passed the Brazilian hall in front of the Brazilian hall. I thought I should go with you in the wall. Last year, I had a picture of the exhibition and a picture. I think of a good exhibition. Is there a gallery in Goesan?
There is no one. Since there are a lot of older people, the budget is also deployed there, and the youth youth side is weak.
It’s also a vicious cycle in the area. As the youth youth population is reduced, the budget is reduced. I think it’s important to turn this structure into a virtuous 더존카지노 cycle. How about a Gallery?
I don’t know, but I’m collecting money because I want to try a small gallery. It also serves as an independent bookstore. I’m envisioning with the concept of printing workshop. When I lived here, I thought about how to bring young people. Even if you try to have a relationship, you need to bring it. (웃음) 뭔가 있으면 젊은이들이 오지 않을까요. 그래도 올해 괴산에 다섯 명 있는 청년들(웃음)과 그림책 만들기 프로젝트를 같이 하게 됐어요. 문화학교 숲에 있는 친구 두 명과 청년인턴 자리에 들어온 친구 두명 그리고 저, 다섯 명이 그림책 만들기 기획안을 냈는데 예산을 받을 수 있게 됐어요. 이걸 하게 된 계기는 문화학교 숲에서 작가와 함께 하는 그림책 만들기 프로그램을 했는데 그 수업을 같이 듣고 자극을 받아서 우리도 한 번 해보자 해서 하게 됐죠. 문화적인 자극을 받는 건 좋은 일인 거 같아요.
나마는 진정 괴산 사람이 다 되어버렸다. 자신이 사는 지역의 고민을 어느 결에 진지하게 하고 있다. 무릇 젊은이들란 도시로 가는 것이 인지상정이다. 화려하고 새롭고 다양하고 신나는 세계를 경험해보고 싶은 욕망이 없다면 그것이 어찌 청춘이랴. 그렇게 도시에서 원없이 후회없이 놀다가 어느날 문득 고향으로 돌아가고 싶어지는 날, 거기 동무와 일자리와 영화관과 아이들을 키울 교육환경과 카페와 쇼핑몰과, 동지들, 이 있으면 된다. 그러면 누구나 돌아갈 것이다. 나마가 구상하는 공방은 그래서 의미가 있다. 괴산 읍내에 이쁘고 다정한 공방이 열리면 아이들과 청소년들이 하나 둘 찾아올 것이다. 기웃기웃 구경하던 사람들 중에 누군가는 말을 걸어올 것이고 시간이 흐르면 옆자리에 와서 일을 같이 할 수도 있겠지. 군청에서도 오고 농장에서도 오고 도시생활에 지친 친구들도 오고 그러다보면 왁작왁작 복작복작, 그러다 또다른 공간을 옆에 만들고. 그 시작이 나마의 공방이 되었으면 진정 좋겠다.
어딘 엄마나 아빠는 나마가 괴산에 있는 것보다 도시에서 커리어를 쌓기를 원하거나 바라진 않나요?
나마 음… 엄마 아빠는 안 그러시는데 저는 살짝 고민을 했었어요. 그런 거 있잖아요, 20대인데 더 도전해보고 그래야 하지 않을까, 벌써 시골에서 안주하려고 하는 건 아닌가 하는 강박 같은 거. 그런데 30대가 되니 뭔가 편안해지는 지점이 있어요. 20대 땐 누가 강요하진 않았는데 뭔가 숙제를 안 한 느낌이 계속 들었거든요.
어딘 젊은이여 꿈과 야망을 가져라 이런 거?
나마 네. 아무도 나한테 그렇게 말하진 않았지만 부담스러운 뭔가가 있었어요. 그래서 빨리 할머니가 되고 싶단 생각도 들었어요. 아무도 나에게 뭔가를 요구하지 않는, 그냥 존재 자체만으로도 인정받을 수 있는 할머니가 되면 좋겠다는 생각을 했었어요. 그래서 전 나이 드는 게 좋아요. 다들 20대에서 30대로 넘어가는 게 힘들다고 하는데 저는 되게 자연스럽고 편안했거든요.
어딘 생각해보니 나도 가장 자유로웠던 때가 20대 후반 30대 초반이었던 것 같네요. 신기하지, 나도 빨리 늙었으면 좋겠다 그런 생각을 했었는데, 막상 늙어보니까 기운이 없고 자꾸 아프고. (웃음) 그래서 그렇게까지 빨리 늙을 필요는 없는 같아요. (웃음)
나마 지금은 많이 편안해졌어요.
어딘 도전이나 야망 같은 말에 나마가 어떤 부담이 있었다고 했는데 나는 사실 나마가 큰 도전을 했다고 생각해요. 남들이 모두 이 길로 가고 어른들도 그 길로 가는 게 정답인 거처럼 말하는 과정에서 나마는 정반대의 길을 갔잖아요. 어떻게 보면 나마가 괴산으로 내려간 거 자체가 큰 도전이었던 거죠. 너는 대학까지 나온 젊은 애가 왜 여기서 이러고 있니, 라는 말을 안 하는 훌륭한 부모님이 계셨던 것이 나마가 괴산에 터를 잡는데 큰 역할을 한 거 같네요. 앞으로 하고 싶은 일은 뭐가 있어요?
나마 아까 말씀드린 인쇄공방. 인쇄공방은 꼭 해야되겠다라고 생각하고 있어요. 누구나 와서 자기 책을 만들 수 있는 곳. 지나가던 할아버지가 들어와서 자신의 이야기를 쓰고 싶다고 하면 쓸 수 있도록 도와드리고 책을 만들어 드리는 거에요. 그렇게 한 사람 두 사람 쓴 책이 모이면 그 안에 괴산 사람들의 이야기가 담겨있는 거죠. 타지에서 놀러 온 사람들도 괴산 사람들의 다양한 이야기를 만나볼 수 있는, 그런 재미있는 공간을 해보고 싶어요. 그리고 나머지 하나는 그냥 이미지로만 있는데, 할머니가 되어서 혼자 사는데 그림을 그리고 게임도 하고. (웃음) 집을 잘 짓고 시골에서, 그림 그리고 게임하는 할머니, 그런 할머니 이미지를 갖고 있어요. 근데 할머니가 돼서도 게임을 할 수 있을까요? 눈이 잘 안보여서 못할까요? (웃음)
‘하울의 움직이는 성’이라는 일본 애니메이션에서 가장 기억에 남는 건 주인공 소녀가 갑자기 할머니가 됐는데도 전혀 놀라지 않는 장면이었다. 나마가 내일 할머니가 되어 있어도 나는 전혀 놀랄 거 같지 않다. 머리가 하얗게 센 나마는 더 멋진 그림을 그리고 더 신나게 게임을 하고 더 따뜻한 그림책을 만들 것이다.
어딘 요즘도 게임 많이 해요? 10대 때 폐인처럼 게임 한 시절도 있었잖아요. (웃음)
나마 네. 근데 그 땐 돈이 없어서 다양한 게임을 해보지 못했는데 지금은 돈을 버니까 살 수 있는 게임이 많잖아요. 세상에, 어릴 때는 시간이 많아서 할 수 있었는데 그땐 돈이 없었고 지금은 시간이 부족해서 마음껏 못 하고 있다니. 얼른 할머니가 돼서 막 게임을 하고 싶어요. (웃음) 어쨌거나 그래도 저는 돈 벌어서 게임에 가장 많이 써요. 할 시간이 없어도 신작이 나오면 막 사요. (웃음)
어딘 게임 말고 나마 인생에 영향력을 행사한 건 어떤 것들이 있어요?
나마 음…
어딘 혹은 영향을 끼친 인물. 사람.
나마 일단 학교를 나온 거가 시작인가? 고등학교 1학년 때 학교를 도저히 못 다니겠어서, 너무 재미가 없었어요, 부모님께 얘기를 했는데 아빠가 학교를 나와도 된다고 허락했던 것, 그리고 고모의 추천으로 어딘을 만나서 글을 쓰게 된 것, 그 과정에서 다양한 친구들을 만났고 삶에 다양한 길이 있다는 걸 알게 되고 보게 된 것, 그리고 아빠가 괴산에 내려가 버린 것, 사실 엄마는 반대했었는데 지금은 가장 괴산생활을 잘 즐기고 계신 거 같아요. 플루트도 배우고 난타도 배우고. (웃음)
나마가 청소년 시절에 공공미술프로젝트에 함께 참여한 적이 있다. 그때 우리 팀이 맡은 일은 신문을 발행하는 것이었는데 어쩌다 주최측과 약간의 갈등이 발생했다. 문제를 해결하기 위한 회의가 열렸고 모두 심각한 얼굴로 이 상황을 어떻게 해결할 것인지를 열띠게 토론했다. 디자인을 맡은 나마와 내가 우리 팀을 대표해 참여했는데 매끄러운 수습은 아니었지만 어쨌든 해결을 했다. 끝내고 나오는데 회의 내내 한 마디도 안 하던 나마가 마침내 입을 열었다. 어딘, 방구가 나올 거 같아 죽을 뻔 했어요. 그 한 마디에 나는 빵 터져서 아하하하하하 길거리에서 배를 잡고 웃었다. 웃고 웃고 웃고 또 웃었다. 그러고나니 회의에서 받았던 스트레스가 모두 날아가버렸다. 열 여덟살 나마, 엄격하고 근엄하고 진지한 어른들이 대부분인 회의장에서 배가 부글부글 끓었던 것이다. 나마는 긴장과 갈등을 잘 견디지 못 한다. 혹은 견디지 않는다. 슬쩍 옆으로 피한다. 정면승부만 승부랴, 고수란 꼿꼿하기보단 말랑말랑한 법이다. 연하고 순하고 유연한, 생명의 힘이란 그런 것이다. 나마야, 하고 부를 때 내 어깨는 문득 부드러워지고 눈은 꼬리를 접는다.
[잘 사는 청년]
달콤한 나마
-홍남화를 만나다
인터뷰어. 어딘
인터뷰이. 홍남화(나마)
녹취 및 정리. 박상희(조개)
글. 어딘
발행일. 2019.04.26
에필로그, 3년이 지난 후 한 컷 [2022.04.18]
Takase -san
I ate “casino”.
~ From the product description ~
Takasezen originally wrapped with fruits with whipped cream and custard cream.
It is 235g in half.
The back side looks like this.
It looks like it will collapse when turned over,
But it’s the part where I like the best in the bread, so my heart dances, so
I really want to leave it in the photo …
Return it back, carefully, carefully, 인터넷바카라 and gently.
First from the chocolate.
Delicious> ﹏ < This sweetness is irresistible. Originally I like apples that heat up, Takase’s apples leave a crunchy texture. But it is good to boil it firmly. Here is a very sweet custard cream. The chocolate on the surface is also milk, not bitter, so It’s really sweet. Return to life ~> ﹏ < Next is white, sugar. Further sweet, It resonates in the back of the brain, It is sweet that penetrates the brain. I always say the same thing. 。 If you put it in the freezer for about 10 minutes before eating, The surface is solidified and crisp, It has become easier to eat. The flavor of apples and raisins is also good, From the custard cream in the chocolate The only cream of the sugar is I thought the sweetness of the apples would be clearer. But even if it’s so sweet I’m not sloppy & sticky It is good not to be heavy. … I feel like that It may be the only self of the sweet tooth. 。 Charge the energy to live. The fatigue was blown away! When you eat sweets, you’ll be crazy I realize that energy is full. Shout again. delicious! But I don’t feel like I’m a little tired. Maybe I still continue to eat ♪ Thank you for the meal.